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Gerard de Furnival
(1156-After 1218)
Maud de Luvetot Heir of Sheffield & Worksop
(Abt 1178-After 1247)
William de Ferrières 4th Earl of Derby
(Abt 1168-1247)
Agnes of Chester Lady of Chartley
(Abt 1174-1247)
Sir Thomas de Furnival Knight
(Abt 1198-After 1238)
Berta de Ferrières
(-After 1267)
Daughter of Thomas de Furnival
(-Bef 1247)

 

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Roger de Mowbray

Daughter of Thomas de Furnival

  • Marriage: Roger de Mowbray
  • Died: Bef 1247

bullet  Information about this person:

• Background Information: From GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Archives. 193
From: royalancestry@msn.com (Douglas Richardson)
Subject: Re: New Evidence for Newmarch- Mowbray marriage
Date: 27 Mar 2002 09:29:16 -0800

At this point, an unusual problem develops which may or may not be solvable. I show that Roger de Mowbray (died 1263) married (lst) about 1238 to an unknown daughter of Thomas de Furnival, of Sheffield, co. York, by Bertha, the newly identified daughter of William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby. He married (2nd) date uncertain but before 1257 to Maud de Beauchamp, daughter of William de Beauchamp, Knt., Baron of Bedford, co. Bedford, by Ida Longespee. Both wives were or royal descent. The first wife descends from King Henry I through her new Ferrers ancestry. The second wife descends from King Henry II through her Longespee ancestry.

Roger de Mowbray clearly had his son and heir, Roger, by his 2nd wife, Maud de Beauchamp. However, it is less certain which wife was the mother of his two daughters, Joan, wife of Robert de Mohaut, and Isabel (or Elizabeth), wife of Adam de Newmarch. As best I can determine, both Joan and Isabel were married to their respective husbands before their father's death. If so, then presumably they were children of their father's 1st marriage, as they appear to be somewhat older than their brother, Roger, who was aged 6 at his father's death.

There doesn't seem to be a good indication as to when Roger de Mowbray's 2nd wife, Maud de Beauchamp, was born. It appears that Maud was born after 1225, as she had at least one child by her 2nd marriage to Roger le Strange, of Ellesmere, co. Salop. A birthdate of 1225 would barely permit Maud to be the mother of Roger de Mowbray's daughters, Joan and Isabel. All things considered, I feel it better to assign Joan and Isabel to Roger de Mowbray's lst marriage to his Furnival wife.


Daughter married Roger de Mowbray, son of William de Mowbray Baron of Axholme and Unknown. (Roger de Mowbray was born about 1220 in Axholme, Lincolnshire, Lincolnshire, England,599 died about Nov 1266 in Axholme, Lincolnshire, Lincolnshire, England 141 and was buried in Black Friars, Pontrefact, York, Yorkshire, England 141,160.)


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