Sir John de Walesbreu Knight

   Another name for John was Sir John Whalesburgh Knight.

  Noted events in his life were:

• Background Information. ¹⁶⁰
Sir John Beauchamp, Knight married in about 1340 Margaret Whalesburgh, daughter of John Walesburgh.

~Weis' Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, 8th Edition, 246E:32

• Background Information: From GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Archives. ¹⁹³ From: Cochoit <cochoit@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Whalesborough
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:58:20 -0700 (PDT)

Part 2 of my Whalesborough family outline. The first John below is the son of William De Whalesborough who died 21 August 1328.

Sir JOHN De WALESBREU. [1] Born 1314-1316 as he was still a minor when John, Earl of Cornwall presented on 2 May 1335 to St. Mawgan-in- Kerrier, by reason of him having custody of the lands of John de Walesbreu, a minor [2], but in the 1337 Caption of Seisin of the Duchy of Cornwall, John de Walesbreu was holding 3 knights fees in an illegible location and 1 fee in Hutno, for which he is required to do castle guard and all other services in proportion to his holdings. [3] Johannes de Whalisbreu, miles, was Knight of the Shire for Cornwall at the Parliaments of 7 June 1344 and 23 Sep 1353. [4] In 1346, Johanne de Walesbreu held Laimaylwen and Lancarf "which his father William formerly held" (quod Willelmus pater suus prius tenuit). [5] His mother presented her nephew John De Bodrugan to St. Mawnan on 23 Feb. 1347/48 as 'Joan relict of William De Whalesbreu" and again to St. Mawnan on 6 Nov. 1348 and 1 Mar. 1361/62. [6, 7] He presented to the church of St. Perran-Uthno on 17 July 1348, 19 June 1349, 10 Jan 1361/2 and to St. Mawnan-in-Kerrier 6 Aug 1349, 3 Apr 1350, 7 Dec 1361, and 4 Mar 1361/2; presentations on 11 Oct. 1372 and 22 June 1381 would have been by his son John [8,9].

Sir John de Walesbreu was married to Joan De Bodrugan, daughter of Sir Otes De Bodrugan by Margaret Chambernoun. [10] Family connections presented as rectors to various churches include her nephew John De Bodrugan, a Sir Reginald Beauchamp, a Roger Beauchamp and a Sir Thomas De Carmynou. Joan died 5 June 1349. [11]

Sir John De Whalesbreu died 26 April 1362. [12] Tristram Risdon says that John De Whalesburgh obitt 1362 used the arms 'Gules three bendlets azure, on a bordure sable nine bezants' (same as the William who died 1328). [13]

i. JOHN WHALESBOROUGH.
ii. MARGARET WHALESBOROUGH m. Sir John II De Beauchamp of Ryme Intrinseca, co. Dorset. [14] He died 8 April 1349. [15] It should be noted that the Cal. of IPM incorrectly combines his IPM with his son John who died less than a month later on 4 May 1349. [16] In the Challons pedigree she is called Margaret daughter of John Whalesborough. [17] By dates she would have to be the daughter of this John Whalesborough, and not of John his son who wasn't born until 1346; this is also apparently further confirmed by unpublished manuscripts at the British Library in London. [18] As noted, the oldest son of John De Beauchamp was his son John who died before the IPM of the father could be taken; the next son was Thomas who was found to be the heir in the IPMs of both John the father, and of John his son. Richard Branscombe was granted the wardship of the lands of Thomas De Beauchamp on 10 April 1350. Margaret remarried this Richard Branscombe by 23 October 1353 when the wardship was confirmed to Richard de Brankescombe, and Margaret his wife. [19] That this is the same Margaret is confirmed by her assignment of dower on 10 January 1355 (this writ refers to a previous king's writ on 20 November 1353). [20]

1. Based on Ronny Bodine SGM Feb 25 1999 Whalesborough-Walesbreu of Cornwall. Ronny Bodine leaves out a generation here by combining the John Whalesborough d. 1362 and John Whalesborough d. 1382. http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg 2. Reg. of Bishop Grandisson, pp. 1309 http://tinyurl.com/yhy826k
3. Ronny Bodine SGM post citing Devon and Cornwall Record Society (new series 17:6-7)
4. Ronny Bodine SGM post citing Returns of Members of Parliament p. 138, 153
5. Feudal Aids, 1: 214 http://tinyurl.com/yyz5zkw
6. Reg. of Bishop Grandisson, p. 1365, 1368, 1477 http://tinyurl.com/y6jz4eh
7. Whetter, James, The Bodrugans: A Study of a Cornish Medieval
Knightly Family (Cornwall: Lyfrow Trelyspen, 1995.), p. 76
8. Reg. of Bishop Grandisson, p. 1367, 1392, 1472, 1396, 1406, 1470,
1478 http://tinyurl.com/yhy826k
9. Reg. of Bishop Brantyngham p. 22, 70 http://tinyurl.com/y7fo6fb http://tinyurl.com/yyr8b3s
10. Whetter, James, The Bodrugans: A Study of a Cornish Medieval
Knightly Family (Cornwall: Lyfrow Trelyspen, 1995.), p. 10, 42, 56, 76
11. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:5 (Autumn 1975), p. 146.
12. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:5 (Autumn 1975), p. 146.
13. The note-book of Tristram Risdon, 1608-1628 p. 211, 214 http://tinyurl.com/y3qpl5u
14. Ancestral Roots by Frederick Lewis Weis. Seventh Edition, 1999, Line 246E. http://tinyurl.com/y7o6dxs
15. Cal of IPM IX p. 262-263. No. 288 IPM of John Beauchamp. http://tinyurl.com/y6d4mv2
16. Douglas Richardson in SGM thread 'Elizabeth Beauchamp m. William Fortescue' (25 May 2010) http://tinyurl.com/2ex8deh
17. Visitation of Somerset, Challons p. 99 http://tinyurl.com/y3mcszr
18. Douglas Richardson in SGM thread 'Elizabeth Beauchamp m. William Fortescue' (25 May 2010) citing Additional Manuscripts 28649, folio 518 http://tinyurl.com/2ex8deh
19. Cal. of Fine Rolls VI p. 229, 260, 381 http://tinyurl.com/yhuuvcz
20. CCR X p. 242-243 Assignment of dower and remarriage http://tinyurl.com/y2e6qwu

John married Joan de Bodrugan, daughter of Sir Otes de Bodrugan Knight and Margaret Champernoun.