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William de Odingsells Keeper of Montgomery Castle
(Abt 1210-)
Joan
Sir Walter Fitz Robert Knight
(-1258)
Ida de Longespée
(Abt 1227-After 1271)
Sir William Odingsells Knight
(Abt 1235-1295)
Ela Fitz Walter
(-Abt 1312)
Ida de Odingsells
(Abt 1270-After 1322)

 

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Roger de Herdeburgh

Ida de Odingsells

  • Born: Abt 1270, Maxtoke Castle, Warwickshire, England 141
  • Marriage: Roger de Herdeburgh
  • Died: After 1 Mar 1322, England 141

bullet  Noted events in her life were:

• Background Information. 141
John Clinton married, probably about 1290, Ida, sister and coheir of Edmund d'Odingsells, 1st daughter of William d'Odingsells, of Maxstoke, by Ela, daughter of Walter Fitz Robert,of Woodham Walter, with whom he acquired the Lordship and Castle of Maxstoke and other considerable possessions. He died late in 1310. His widow accompanied the Queen Consort to France in 1312-13. She, who was born about 1270, was living 1 March 1321/2.

~Cokayne's Complete Peerage, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, pp. 312-313

• Background Information: From GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Archives. 193
From: royalancestry@msn.com (Douglas Richardson)
Subject: Ida de Odingsells's Herdeburgh and Clinton Marriages: Further Evidence
Date: 27 Sep 2001 08:31:32 -0700

Dear Newsgroup ~

Two days ago I announced the discovery that Ida de Odingsells, a descendant of King Henry II, married (lst) Roger de Herdeburgh (died c. 1284), by whom she had a daughter, Ela de Herdeburgh, who left many descendants. Previously Ida was only known to have had a marriage about 1290 to John de Clinton, 1st Lord Clinton (died c. 1310). Following my post, Rosie Bevan kindly provided a citation which confirmed that Roger de Herdeburgh's wife was in fact named Ida.

Since my first post, I've located an informative article on the Herdeburgh family which appeared in Norfolk Archaeology, 30 (1952): 19-25. That article cites two documents, one dated 1284, the other 1286, which establish beyond doubt that Roger de Herdeburgh's wife was named Ida and that Ida, as Roger's widow, held the manor of Prilleston, Norfolk (a Herdeburgh manor) following his death. The article further states that Prilleston was eventually conveyed by Ida de Herdeburgh's heirs to her grandson, Walter de Hopton, Knt. This confirms that that Prilleston stayed in the family past Ida's death about 1328.

As for other evidence that widow Ida de Herdeburgh married John de Clinton, I found elsewhere that Prilleston, Norfolk was held in 1316 by "Idonia de Clynton" [Reference: Feudal Aids, 6 (1920): 478]. Idonia de Clynton can be none other than Ida de Clinton, then a widow for the second time.

Best always,
Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com


Ida married Roger de Herdeburgh, son of Hugh de Herdeburgh and Isabel de Craft. (Roger de Herdeburgh was born about 1250 in Weston, Turville, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England and died about 1284 in Prilleston, Norfolk, England 1265.)


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