John Tonge
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Robert de Turnham
(-1174)

 

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Robert de Turnham

  • Born: Thumham, Kent, England
  • Marriage: Unknown
  • Died: 1174, Thumham, Kent, England 193

bullet  General Notes:


K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants, p. 750 1027

bullet  Noted events in his life were:

• Background Information. 1204
In the reign of Henry II Robert de Turnham, lord of the manor of Turnham in Kent, (Hasted, op. cit. ii, 494) owned Little Brickhill, (Dugdale, Mon. vi, 412-13.) which afterwards came to his younger son Stephen. Ibid.; Dugdale, Baronage, i, 662-3) Stephen, who was in the king's service in 1212, (Rot. Lit. Claus. (Rec. Com.), i, 121) died in or before 1214.

~A History of the County of Buckingham: Volume IV, pp. 298-303

• Background Information. 1291
Robert de Turnham
held this estate of Thurnham in the reign of king Henry II. and was the founder of the priory of Combwell, in Goudhurst, to which he gave part of his possessions in this parish. He left two sons, Robert and Stephen; the former of whom attended king Richard I. in his noted expedition to the holy land, and he died in the 13th year of king John's reign, without issue male, and was succeeded by his brother Stephen de Turnham, who having ratisied his father's grants to the priory of Combwell, died before the 16th year of that reign.

~The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent, Volume V, pp. 520-532

• From Gen-Medieval Archives: Ancestry of Stephen and Robert de Turnham: John de Tong . 193
From: Therav3@aol.com
Subject: Ancestry of Stephen and Robert de Turnham: John de Tong
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 18:47:53 EDT

A small addition can be made to the ancestry of Robert de Turnham and his brother Stephen de Turnham. Among the charters of grants to Bayham priory are those of Robert and Stephen, their father Robert, and uncle Michael de Turnham [1]. One charter in particular, that of Robert de Turnham, in part confirms the grants of his uncle Michael de Turnham in Blechenden and other nearby lands in Kent [2]. Of particular note, the confirmation of same by King John on 6 April 1210 confirms among others the grants 'of the gift of Michael son of John de Tong, 10 acres of land with appurtenances in Tong...' ["De dono Michaelis filii Johannis de Tonge x. acras terrae, cum pertinentiis, in Tonge..."] [3].

NOTES (to post):

[1] Sir William Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum (London: Harding & Lepard; and Longman Rees... Green, 1830), VI:911 et seq.

[2] Ibid., VI:912, Num. VIII : ' Sciant praesentes et futuri, quod ego Robertus de Turnham, assensu et voluntate domini mei Ricardi comitis de Clare, dedi et concessi et praesenti carta confirmavi Deo et sanctae Mariae et canonicis ordinis Praemonstratensis, qui manserunt apud Brokeley, et succesoribus suis, totam terram meam de Begeham, cum omnibus pertinentiis suis, in puram et perpetuam elemosinam, liberam et quietam ab omni servicio et seculari exactione, ad abbatiam ibidem construendam in honore Dei et beatae Mariae. Item dedi eisdem canonicis, in puram, liberam, et perpetuam elemosinam, totam terram de Brokeley, cum omnibus pertinentiis suis; habendam et tenendam de Galfrido de Say et haeredibus suis, libere et quiete. Reddendo inde eis annuatim apud Grenewicum xii'd pro omni servicio et seculari exactione, et terram de Kingeswude in Sandrig, quam emi de Willielmo de Kaio. Has praedictas terras cum omnibus pertinentiis suis dedi eisdem canonicis, assensu et voluntate dominorum meorum; habendas et tenendas, sicut praedictum est, libere et quiete ab omni servicio et seculari exactione, secta, consuetudine, et demanda, quae super terram eveniunt vel evenire possunt, sicut aliqua elemosina melius et liberius dari potest. Praeterea dedi eisdem canonicis, in liberam et perpetuam elemosinam, terram quam habui apud Rokeland de monachis sancti Martini de Bosco; reddendo inde annuatim eisdem monachis v. solidos pro omni servicio et seculari exactione ad festum sancti Michaelis. Item dedi eisdem terram de Grimbroc, quam tenui de monachis sancti Pancracii de Lewes; reddendo eisdem monachis ii. solidos ad festum sancti Michaellis pro omni servicio: item dedi eis terram, quam emi de Gunnora et de filiis suis in Sandrig, juxta abbaciam, versus aquilonem; reddendo eisdem annuatim duos solidos pro omni servicio. Praeter has praedictas donationes concessi et praesenti carta confirmavi praedictis canonicis, omnes donationes, quod Michael de Turneham avunculus meus eis dedit; videlicit terras de Blechinden, et de Winbrig, et de Estelrige, et de Matefeld, et de Faukerige, et Wichilinden, et terram quae vocatur terra Nicholai; et totum manerium de Rokeley, et Grimbroc, et Childherst, cum hominibus et redditibus; et cum omnibus aliis pertinentiis suis; habenda et tenenda in perpetuum libere et quiete, integre, et plenarie, sine aliquo retenemento, sicut praedictus Michael vel ego illa unquam melius et liberius aliquo tempore tenuimus. Has praedictas donationes et confirmationes feci eisdem canonicis pro anima domini mei regis Ricardi, et pro salute domini mei regis Johannis, et liberorum suorum; et pro salute mea, et pro animabus omnium antecessorum et successorum meorum; et ego et haeredes mei warantizabimus eisdem canonicis omnes praedictas donationes et confirmationes contra omnes homines et omnes feminas. ' [Ex cod. MS. in bibl. Cotton. (sub effigie Othonis A. 2.) fol. 34 a. ]

[3] Ibid., VI:914, Num. XVIII : ' Johannes Dei gratia rex Angliae, &c., omnibus fidelibus at quos praesens carta pervenerit, salutem. Sciatis nos, intuitu Dei, concessise et hac carta nostrat confirmasse abbatiae de Begeham, et canonicis ibidem Deo servientibus, omnia tenementa subscripta, et subscriptas concessiones; scilicet de concessione Elae de Saukeville translationem sedis abbatiae de Oteham, factam, usque at Begeham, quae dicitur Beuliu; et omnes res et possessiones et tenementa, quae praefati canonici tenent de feodo ipsius Elae. Item de dono ejusdem Elae, totam terram quam Alwinus Crop tenuit de Radulfo de Dene patre suo, in marisco de Pluenham. De dono Willielmi de Kaieu, totam terram, quam idem Willielmus habuit in Sandrigge de feodo de Ailesford. De dono Michaelis filii Johannis de Tonge x. acras terrae, cum pertinentiis, in Tonge, scilicet medietatem totius terrae de Tonge.........
Quae volumus, &c. Data per manum R. de Marisco apud Cnapp, sexto die Aprilis, anno regni nostri xii. ' [Mon. Angl. VI(2):914, Num. XVIII, cites Pat. 6 Edw. III. p. 2, m. 30, per Inspex.]

1 John de Tong
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' Johannis de Tonge', charter of King John confirming grants of his son Michael to Bayham Abbey, dated 6 April 1210 [Mon. Angl. VI(2):914, Num. XVIII[1], cites Pat. 6 Edw. III. p. 2, m. 30, per Inspex.]

Children: Robert (-1174)
Michael

1.1 Robert de Turnham
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Death: 1174[2] of Thurnham, Kent

held three fees of Walkelini Mamignot (Walchelin Maminot), 1166 [Sutliff, cites Red Book of the Exchequer[2]]

founder of Combwell priory: an inspeximus of Henry III (dated at Westminster, 6 July, 1227) confirms the gift of the church of St. Mary of Turnham, previously confirmed by Stephen de Turnham: ' ...donationem Roberti de Turnham patris mei,..' [Mon.Angl. VI(1):412-3, Num. 1[1]]
benefactor of Bayham priory: ' Robertus de Turneham', gave the land of Rokeland to Bayham abbey, which his brother Michael held of him by the service of 1/6 of a knight's fee [Mon. Angl. VI(2):913, Num. XII[1]]

Children: Robert (-1211)
Stephen (-1214)
John
Gilbert

1. Sir William Dugdale, "Monasticon Anglicanum," London: Harding & Lepard; and Longman Rees... Green, 1830 URL: http://monasticmatrix.usc.edu/bibliographia/index.php?function=detail&id=2659.

2. Henry Sutliff, "Turnham," 19 February 2003, email sssbo@earthlink.net, cites Red Book of the Exchequer.

3
. Richard Borthwick, "Stephen and Robert de Turnham," May 20, 1998, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.

4
. I. J. Sanders, English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.

5
. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.

6. Sir Steven Runciman, A History of the Crusades (3 vols) Cambridge Univ. Press, 1954.

7
. "Richard I," John Gillingham, New Haven: Yale University Press, 1999, 129, 152 (de Camville), Yale English Monarchs series.

8. W. L. Warren, "King John," New Haven: Yale University Press, 1997 (orig. published 1981 in UK, Eyre Methuen Ltd), Yale English Monarchs series.

9
. K. J. Allison, ed., "A History of the County of York, East Riding," Oxford: published for the Institute of Historical Research, Oxford Univ. Press, 1969, Vol. III.


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