Angoria de Penthievre
- Marriage: Alan de Dinan Dinan in 1135 in Bretagne, France 261
General Notes:
~Annals and Antiquities of Lacok Abbey, Pedigree V. p. 264 759
~Weis' Ancestral Roots . . ., 214:21, of Bretagne, m. 1135, Oliver II, Sire de Dinan, son of Geoffrey, Sire de Dinan, Bretagne 160
Noted events in her life were:
• From Gen-Medieval Archives: Dinan. 193 rom: therav3@aol.com (John Ravilious) Subject: Re: CP - ES correction needed? Date: 18 Jun 2004 20:49:43 -0700
Friday, 18 June, 2004 Dear Leo,
It does appear CP is correct. See the following pedigree of the descendants of Alan de Dinan (grandfather of Eleanor de Vitré), which indicates that his son Roland dvp before 1190; Emma de Dinan was the daughter of Alan, and sister of Roland.
Hope this is helpful. Cheers, John
1 Alan de Dinan[1] ---------------------------------------- Death :bef 1166[2] Occ: vicomte de Dinan Father: Geoffroi II de Dinan (->1122) Mother: Orieldis
of Burton, co. Northants. seigneur de Dinan-Becherel champion of Henry I in tournament against that of King Louis VI of France at Gisors, ca. 1109 [DD 433[3]] supporter of the Empress Matilda against Stephen, from 1135[3]
'Alan, the grantee of Henry I, was succeeded as tenant at will in the whole of Burton by Roland de Dinant, who was holding it in 1166 and 1173.'[2]
Identification as father of Emma de Dinan, wife of Robert de Vitre by Todd A. Farmerie (citing CP; also re: Aginore de Penthievre as wife of Alan, not Oliver- as per K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants p. 434[3])[4]
see also Ancestral Roots 7th ed., p. 178, citing 'The Moriarity Notebooks, vol.13'[5]
Spouse: Aginore of Richmond[4] Father: Stephen, count of Brittany and lord of Richmond (-1135) Mother: Hawisa de Guincamp(->1134)
Children: Emma (-1208) Roland (-<1190)
1.1 Emma de Dinan[1] ---------------------------------------- Death:18 Dec 1208[4]
Spouse: Robert III, seigneur de Vitre[1] Death:ca 1184[4] Father: Robert II de Vitre (-ca1161) Mother: Emma de la Guerche
Children: Eleanor Andrew Alan (-1197)
1.1.1a Eleanor de Vitre*[1] ----------------------------------------
Countess of Salisbury
she m. lstly William Paynel, 2ndly Gilbert de Tillieres, 3rdly William, Earl of Salisbury [order possibly different], 4thly, Gilbert Malesmains [as his second wife][1], [6],[2]
'In Nov 1177 Andrew de Vitre gave to William son of Fulk Paynel, with his sister in free marriage, that moiety of his land in Normandy that was jointly divided by Fulk Paynel and himself, which he had chosen in Andrew's manors of Ryes, Trungy, and Ducy [all in Calvados], with a yearly rent of 20 li. from his manor of Cooling, Suffolk. '[2]
Concerning her maritagium, 'Battle Abbey Roll' states, ' Gilbert Malesmains, in 1198 held Cooling in right of his wife, together with the lands in England of her dower, viz. Westcote in Surrey, Kingsbury and Edgeware, Middlesex, Wooton, in Oxon, and Gatesden in Herts, and held them to the year of the conquest of Normandy by Philip Augustus, when they were in the King's hands as an escheat of the land of the Normans."- _T Stapleton._[7]
NOTE: She was previously held to be the one wife of William, Earl of Salisbury and the mother of his heiress Ela [cf. CP Vol. XI(Salisbury), p. 379][1] Given the probable birth date of Ela based on her children's birth, she was undoubtedly not born in 1191 but sometime earlier (1187 ?), and the daughter of a previous wife not recorded in CP.
Peter Sutton suggests the 'Gundre comitissa' noted in the Liber Vitae of Durham[8],[9]
had a charter for a fair to be held at Cowlinge, Suffolk: 'feria gr 2 Oct 1225, by K Hen III to Alienor countess of Salisbury. To be held at the manor until the king came of age (RLC, ii, p. 63). Order to the sh of Suffolk to allow Alienora, countess of Salisbury to hold the fair regardless of the king’s prohibition of all markets and fairs raised during the minority, dated 16 Jul 1227 (RLC, ii, p. 192b).'[10]
Spouse: William, Earl of Salisbury [3rd husband] Death: 1196[1] Father: Patrick de Salisbury (-ca1168) Mother: Alice of Ponthieu (-1174) Marr:ca 1190[1]
Children:Ela (ca1187-1261)
[1.] G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom. [2.] Rosie Bevan, "Re: Eleanor de Vitre," August 15, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, citations from Rosie Bevan : rbevan@paradise.net.nz, citation from Victoria County History of Northants., vol. 3, p. 181 [which cites Red Book of Exchequer, Rolls series, 331-2; Great Roll of the Pipe (Pipe Roll Soc.), xi, 119; xii, 54; xxi, p.53]. [3.] K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday Descendants," The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, 2002. [4.] Mike Talbot, "Vitri," June 24, 1998, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com additional commentary by Todd A. Farmerie (taf2@po.cwru.edu). [5.] Frederick L. Weis (add/corr, Walter L Sheppard Jr.), "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists," Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co. [6.] John Carmi Parsons, "More Angevin Bastards," Sept 7, 1998, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com [7.] Adrian Channing, "Malemaine was Joan Knowght," Jan 27, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com cites DUCHESS OF CLEVELAND's "Battle Abbey Roll", 1889, Vol ii pp 246-8, re: Malesmains. [8.] Rosie Bevan, "Liber Vitae and the family of Roger and Ida Bigod," July 31, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, citations from Rosie Bevan : rbevan@paradise.net.nz, Liber Vitae Ecclesiae Dunelmensis, Vol. 13: Nec Non Obituaria Duo Ejusdem Ecclesiae, ed. J. Stevenson (1841), Vol. 136: A Collotype Facsimile of the Original Manuscript, ed. A. H. Thomson (1926), followup post by Rosie, 'Re: Liber Vitae...' Aug 5, 2002, notes " Duncan' fil' ei' " correction, " Margareta soror ei' " addition. [9.] Peter Sutton, "Liber Vitae and the family of Roger and Ida Bigod," August 1, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, based on citations from Rosie Bevan : rbevan@paradise.net.nz, Liber Vitae Ecclesiae Dunelmensis, Vol. 13: Nec Non Obituaria Duo Ejusdem Ecclesiae, ed. J. Stevenson (1841), Vol. 136: A Collotype Facsimile of the Original Manuscript, ed. A. H. Thomson (1926). [10.] "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
Angoria married Alan de Dinan Dinan, son of Geoffrey Vicomte de Dinan and Orieldis, in 1135 in Bretagne, France.193 (Alan de Dinan Dinan died before 1166 in Bretagne, France.)
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