Geoffrey de Mandeville Baron Of Pleshy
Athelaise
(Abt 1040-)
William de Mandeville
(Abt 1062-1130)
Beatrix de Mandeville
(Abt 1105-1197)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. William de Say Lord de Saye

2. Hugh Talbot

Beatrix de Mandeville

  • Born: Abt 1105, Mandeville, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France
  • Marriage (1): William de Say Lord de Saye 141,160,723,784
  • Marriage (2): Hugh Talbot 141
  • Died: 19 Apr (in or about) 1197, Rickling, Essex, England about age 92 141
  • Buried: In or about 1197, Walden Abbey, Essex, England 141

bullet  Information about this person:

• Background Information. 723
The grandson and namesake of William de Say married the divorced wife of Hugh Talbot, Beatrix de Mandeville, who lived to be the sole heiress of that renowned house. She was the mother of two sons, William and Geoffrey.

~The Battle Abbey, Roll, Vol. III, p. 127

• Background Information. 141
William de Say married Beatrice, divorced wife of Hugh Talebot, sister of Earl Geoffrey above named, and daughter of William de Mandeville. The Earl is said to have brought her to England for the marriage. She lived to a great age and died on 19 Apr, in or before 1197, and was buried at Walden Abbey.

~Cokayne's Complete Peerage, 2nd Edition, (Say), Vol. XI, p. 465

William de Manderville died leaving as his heir his aunt, Beatrice de Mandeville, or de Say, only sister of the 1st Earl. Beatrice married, 1stly Hugh Talebot, from whom she was divorced. She married, 2ndly, William de Say, who was slain at the siege of Burwell Castle, mentioned above, in Aug 1144. Her elder son, William de Say, of Kimbolton, Hunts, and Saham, Norfolk, died in 1177 leaving two daughters his coheirs-viz., Beatrice, who mied Geoffrey Fitz Piers, and Maud, who married William de Boclande, of Buckland, Berks, Cippenham, Bucks, Weston (now Westoning), Beds, Radcot and Grafton, Oxon, Aldbury and Pendley, Herts.

Beatrice was of great age at her newphew's death in 1189, and her only surviving son, Geoffrey de Say, was allowed to occupy her place, and to have seizin of the inheritance. His fine for succession was fixed at 7,000 marks, but he did not pay this sum, nor any part of it, and soon afterwards he was disseized. Then Geoffrey fitz Piers, for a fine of 3,000 marks, obtained seizin of all the lands of Earl William de Mandeville, it being opportunely discovered that his wife, Beatrice, was, after all, the right and nearest heir thereto. The elder Beatrice died, probably at Rickling, Essex, where she resided, 19 Apr. in or before 1197, and was bur. in Walden Abbey.

~Cokayne's Complete Peerage, 2nd Edition, (Say), Vol. V, pp. 120-122


Beatrix married William de Say Lord de Saye, son of Jordon de Say and Lucy de Rumilly 141,160,723.,784 (William de Say Lord de Saye was born about 1100 in Sawbridgeworth, Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire, England and died after Aug 1144 in Burwell Castle, Cambridgeshire, England 121.)


Beatrix next married Hugh Talbot, son of Richard Talbot and Aimee d’Aubigné.141 (Hugh Talbot was born about 1078 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England and died after 1123.)


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