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William de Ferrières 5th Earl of Derby
(Abt 1193-1254)
Margaret de Quincy
(Abt 1222-1281)
Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Knight, Earl of Hereford and Essex
(Abt 1220-1265)
Eleanor de Braose
(Abt 1230-Bef 1246)
Robert de Ferrières 6th Earl of Derby
(1239-1279)
Alianore de Bohun
(Abt 1240-1313)
John de Ferrières Baron Ferrers of Chartley
(1271-1312)

 

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Hawise de Muscegros

John de Ferrières Baron Ferrers of Chartley

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~Weis' Ancestral Roots . . ., 8th Edition, 57:31, Sir John de Ferrières, son of Robert de Ferrières and Alianore de Bohun, married Hawise de Muscegros of Charlton and they were the parents of Elenor de Ferrières who married Sir Thomas de Lathom. 160

~Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. II, p. 100, married Hawise Muscegros of Charlton, daughter of Sir Robert de Muscegros and Agnes de Ferrières, daughter of William de Ferrières and Margaret de Quincy. 529

bullet  Noted events in his life were:

• Background Information. 141
Sir John de Ferrers, of Chartley, co. Stafford, Southoe and Keyston, Hunts, and Bugbrooke, Northants, son and heir of Sir Robert de Ferrers, of Chartley, &c., formerly the Earl of Derby (who died in 1279), by his 2nd wife, Alianore, daughter of Sir Humphrey de Bohun, of Kimbolton, Hunts, Walden and Debden, Essex, &c. (son and heir apparent of Humphrey, Earl of Hereford). He was born at Cardiff, 20 Jun 1271. On 21 Nov 1293 the King took his homage, and he had livery of the lands which he inherited as heir of his grandmother, Margaret, Countess of Derby. In April 1294 he was about to go overseas, by the King's command, in attendance on Alianore, the King's daughter, lately married to Henry, Count of Bar. On 6 Aug 1294, after the death of Godfrey de Beaumont, he had livery of the manor of Bugbrooke, as heir of Cecily de Ferrers, sometime the wife of the said Godfrey. He had licence, 13 Sep 1294, to demise to Robert de Bures the manor of Chartley, for the life of the said Robert. In Jan 1296/7 he was about to go to Brabant, by the King's command, in attendance on Margaret, the King's daughter, wife of Jan, Duke of Lothier and Brabant. He was the principal supporter of the Earls of Hereford and Norfolk in their quarrel with the King in 1297. He made an attempt to regain the lands which had been forfeited by his father's rebellion, and petitioned the Pope to permit him to borrow money from prelates and other ecclesiastics in order to redeem these lands by paying the required sum, £50,000, to the Earl of Lancaster. On 10 Aug 1301, the King prohibited him, on pain of forfeiting all that he could forfeit, from prosecuting in Court Christian a plea concerning a lay fief. The king ordered him to cause his plea to be revoked, and to be before the King from Michaelmas in three weeks to receive what should be just in the matter, as the cognizance of such a plea pertained to the King's Court. In December following he was ordered to be before the King in the octaves of St. Hilary to show cause why he had, against his homage, called on the Earl of Lancaster to answer in Court Christian concerning certain lay fiefs in the realm. He was summoned for military service, from May 1297 to 28 May 1311, to attend the Coronation, 18 Jan 1307/8, to a Council 8 Jan 1308/9, and to Parliament from 6 Feb 1298 /9 to 19 Dec 1311, by writs directed Johanni de Ferariis, Ferrariis, or Ferers, whereby he is held to have become Lord Ferrers. He was in Scotland on the King's service in 1298 and 1303, and was Constable of the Army of Scotland in 1306. He was granted the custody of Gloucester Castle, 24 Sep 1311, for a term. On 24 Jan 1311/2 he was appointed Seneschal of Gascony, at a yearly salary of 2,000 livres tournois, equivalent to £500 sterling.

Sir John married, between 2 Feb 1297/8 and 13 Sep 1300, Hawise, daughter and heir of Sir Robert de Muscegros, of Stowell, Norton, and Charlton, Somerset, Kemerton and Boddington, co. Gloucester, Hampstead and Aldworth, Berks, by Agnes, his wife. According to the usual account, this Agnes was daughter of William, Earl of Derby, by his 2nd wife, Margaret de Quincy, which made them first cousins. On 12 and 17 Jul 1302 John de Ferrers and Hawise had livery of the lands of Cecily de Muscegros, her grandmother (who died shortly before 10 Aug 1301), the King having taken his homage therefor. When Seneschal of Gascony, he had serious differences (graves dissensiones et discordie), from which tumults had arisen, with Amanieu, Sire d'Albret, and other magnates, and on 5 Aug 1312, John and Amanieu were ordered to appear before a commission appointed to settle the dispute. Finally, 16 and 19 Aug, they were ordered to come before the King wherever he might be in England, to make peace in the royal presence, but about this time, probably in Aug 1312, John died in Gascony, of poison, it was said, at the age of 41. His widow married Sir John de Bures. In 1329 and 1330 they made dispositions dealing with all, or nearly all, of her estates. She, who was born 21 Dec 1276, was living, 24 Jun 1340, but died before him. He died at Boddington, 21 or 22 Dec 1350.

~Cokayne's Complete Peerage, 2nd Edition, (Ferrers of Chartley), Vol. V, pp. 305-310


John married Hawise de Muscegros, daughter of Sir Robert de Muscegros and Agnes de Ferrières 141,160,526.,529 (Hawise de Muscegros was born on 21 Dec 1276 in England 240 and died after Jun 1340 in England 240.)


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